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8.0.8 Can Religion Be Natural and Rational?

Version 1.4 June 2018                                   (Previous Version)

Is it possible that a religion can be both natural and rational?  Aren’t religions by definition all about the supernatural, and based on dogma, beliefs held in spite of reason and the evidence?

It is useful to describe what sort of beliefs these global beliefs are. 

  • They are not trivial beliefs, such as who won the last football match. 
  • They are not “tactical level” beliefs about specific aspects of life, that we might use to decide which clothes or kitchen utensils to buy. 
  • They are not like “business ethics”, that professionals or company managers would use in considering how to deal with clients or to pursue their business. 

They are more fundamental, more important, more “strategic” beliefs. 

  • They help us discover and explain values and life’s meaning and purpose.
  • They explain why we can, and most of us do, choose to be good.
  • They explain why some of us aren’t good, why there is suffering in the world.

·       They help us to understand mystical or ‘spiritual’ experiences.

·       They help us find ways to express our reverence for life.

  • They are critical to how we manage our whole lives.

Just as god fearing parishioners can share a complex set of attitudes and moral principles, as they participate in their community, so we as atheists, more as naturalists than supernaturalists:

  following this reasonable global way, based on reason and the evidence,

  can share that we have looked reality in the eye and seen its harsh, indifferent side, but we have

  chosen the path of truth, diversity, reality, life, love, freedom, responsibility, equality and hope,

  and we can look each other in the eye and say “you have done this too”.

If we can accept this, there are various ways to consider the implications;

  • We can look at how we define religion, whether we can have a natural rational religion, whether we can have reasonable rituals or alternatives to religious liturgy; and
  • We can explore various ways to present these conclusions, in single page summaries, personal statements that look a bit like creeds (but aren’t), or in poems, and so on.

8.0.8  Religion Without the Supernatural

We can debate whether we should call the beliefs and values of this way a religion.

●        There will be many who have thought in the past that religion cannot be rational or natural.  If religion must involve god(s) or supernatural beings, miraculous occurrences, revelations or dogma held despite reason and the evidence, then this set of beliefs cannot be a religion, because none of these are involved. 

●        Some think the word “religion” has too much negative baggage for it to be widely accepted as describing this natural, rational, reasonable way of life.

●        If we define religion to be the pursuit of our ultimate concerns rather than the adherence to supernatural beings or things or unjustifiable beliefs or practices then we may say that our ‘global beliefs and values’ constitute a reasonable, evidence based, rational, natural religion, a reasonable, global way of life.  more

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